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Reproduction/ Bench Copies:

Rifles with issues you can't explain

If we assume it is an authentic Dickert signature, then we next think about who wants it and why.  A collector of longrifles who would love to have anything affordable associated with Jacob Dickert is one sort of customer.  An important piece of longrifle history.  To that person, it may be worth $500, maybe $1000.  Where else are you going to get something Dickert-associated for that kind of money? A working period flintlock mechanism never restored to flint and suitable for restoration work will start at $300 and go on up.  One signed by an important maker?  More.  So why not a signed barrel?


Next is someone who is restoring an original stock believed to be a Dickert.  You might be surprised at some of the original longrifles in books that started out as a buttstock with a few parts attached, but no barrel.  I can think of 2 offhand and I have no insider information.  Now they are presented as complete rifles.  A restored Dickert, seems to me, would be in the pricing ballpark of a restored JP Beck, etc.  A buttstock, not so much.  So for that unique situation, it might be worth even more than I guessed above.

I'm not an active or up to date collector and keep in mind that serious collectors are reluctant to discuss pricing as it is bound to upset a seller or a buyer out there.

Keep in mind that any uncertainty about the signature's authenticity will affect value. 

Also a maker could use an old “original” barrel ( a contemporary restock of sorts) in the reproduction/copy of an original  (antique) longrifle, “age it”  and unscrupulously represent it as original or by not marking it as such, it becomes thought of as “original” over time.

*******      "Gentlemen, As much as I would like not to comment on this subject I find it most interesting as I have loaned several guns from my original gun collection for 'bench copy' reproductions. 
They were presented to the contemporary maker with the understanding they would be marked with modern maker name and date.  I have no problem with this as all have complied with this agreement. 
However, there are a number of guns recently offered for sale by a few auction companies that, even told otherwise, have described reproductions or guns with significant restoration as original pieces. So the caveat of 'buyer beware' is as strong, if not stronger, today then when our hobby was considered a gentlemans sport. 
I have been a victim, by my own doing, in the past on at least one such rifle. Probably two if I were to own up to it. The price of education!!  
However, I would like all of you to understand why I cherish one of my favorite remaining rifles and have lent it out for more than one bench copy. It is a restored piece with at least 12" of the forend replaced and the barreled stretched.  It is unique by the simple fact the restoration is recorded in the barrel channel. Hand written in indelible ink is the date and amount of repair done by Earl Lanning over 30 years ago. 
Say what you may about 'Bench Copies' but the real problem is undocumented restoration being passed off as original work."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  SOURCE: Americanlongrifle.com

 An original signed barrel for sale

******       "If you buy a gun like this you'll eventually start making excuses for what you can't explain. Excuses will lead to discontent and the next step will be trying to unload the gun.  (How will you represent it to potential buyers????) Buy it right and you might cover your costs. Buy it wrong and then have to explain to your wife where the original perceived value went. Don't buy the gun and you'll still have the money in your pocket!!!! "

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